Combining Glaze with Paint/Primer in One Products ?

[harvey]

Has anyone noticed any adverse effects from using water based glazes such as Aqua Glaze with the newer
paint and primer in one products such as Ben Moore's Select line when doing finishes on straight painted walls ?

[cicalisa]

What are you seeing?

[harvey]

Thanks...I haven't used it yet.  Asking the question in advance just in case....

[meg_hosler]

Just a guess, but if you are referring to AURA, the cure rate is just 7 days compared to many other arrylic suspensions that are closer to 21days...You can experiment and do a few samples... in differenty humidity settings...  I personally like to stay within the brands that are engineered to work together in a predictable way.   I would think mixing differnt performance characteristics  it would give different results like cracking... when you may not want them.

[morey]

While I LOVE my Setcoat, I have nothing but good things to say about Aura. Applied all sorts of finishes and products over it with gorgeous results. A good, high quality interior eggshell acrylic provides an excellent surface. That being said, bonding to the substrate may be more of an issue. Setcoat grabs to darn near anything, and what it doesn't, usually requires something like Prime Etch fist to bond to hard to paint surfaces. Regular paint is not as binding. It simply doesn't have the penetrating qualities, even on new drywall.

[harvey]

Thanks again all-
What I'm specifically inquiring about is whether anyone has COMBINED a one step latex paint (self priming) such as Ben Moore's SELECT line with Silver Label's AQUA GLAZE for the purpose of applying it as a finish.( ie. strie, pounced, stippled, etc. ) on a painted surface, and whether that created any notable differences (problems or advantages) rather than using regular latex paint in the glaze mixture ?

[decoratingplus]

I was concerned about doing the glazing over the 2 in one latexes...but have now had some experience with mixing the 2 in one (Behr brand) in with glaze.
If no one knows this yet, the REGULAR Behr now has a "priming" agent in it, also.  It is not quite all the 2 in one that the other Behr has but it still has "something" in it.
I did not realize it when I was using it on this one occasion, but though it was a dark blue I was working with...it still was having more of a want to overlap showing...more easily. Of course, grin.....I was able to overcome that (actually ended up mixing it to a higher concentration of glaze), but later thought it may be the blocking agents trying hard to block even in the sheerness of glaze.
Kinda worrisome if all the paint companies maybe decide this is the thing to do and MESS with all the acrylic latexes.

[meg_hosler]

I am not sure why you want to effectively dilute the primer bonding ability that usually gives extra strength bonding,   by adding glaze to it.  Seems like you would be creating a less effective overall mixed concoction product and possibly comprimising the net effect of each individual product. But to answer your question, I have not mixed them and see no rationale why one would do so. It would also invalidate the accuracy of the MSDS individual reports by volume.

I recommend you try what you are asking on samples in a comparative way and determine for yourself if it is
an adequate solution.

I have used BM Aura with primer... as a basecoat and used FE glazes on top of it after the Aura was dry.
Worked fine.

[wallstreat]

It is really tough to get any kind of translucency when mixing opaque paint with glaze. . . especially when using a brand that is so concentrated with the chalky calcium fillers.

[decoratingplus]

It was translucent enough...though mixed with one more part glaze...and did want to bite into the base coat

[baforese]

Harvey,

I've never tried what you're asking but, I gotta tell you that I wouldn't do it in a customer's house until I tried in in my own first.  I'm not sure how the glaze would interact with various chemicals in those all-in-one-products.  Not just the application but the durability, too.  jmho